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Dear Judas:
-Christianity
posted by melissa on April 7, 2006 10:28 AM | permalink
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Ohh goshh...
that's actually kind of funny.. but not
Posted by: liz | April 7, 2006 10:32 AM
oops... Guess we were dead WRONG!
sessh...I want to know how the Pope responds to this one...
-Lizzie
Posted by: Lizzie | April 7, 2006 3:07 PM
Some christian friends of mine would argue the authenticity of this.
They'd say: "Yes, Judas was chosen to betray Jesus, yet he got a ticket to hell never the less." This is a paradox but not in violation with "truth". Only hard to comprehend with traditional human thinking. I'm inclined to believe that.
Posted by: al | April 7, 2006 4:19 PM
Well this is going to cause some controversy. It seems like all this type of thing (lost gospels) is coming up a lot lately. I think it may be because of the sucess of The Da Vinci Code (great book btw).
Hmmmm...I'm going to look mor into this, very very interesting; a revelation if it turns out to be authentic [spelling?]. Thanks for posting, very interesting.
Hopefully, I'll talk to you at the live call in show tomorrow. Night.
Posted by: Breana | April 8, 2006 12:33 AM
Dear Judas,
At least you were forgiven
Love From,
~kel~
Posted by: Kelda | April 8, 2006 3:27 AM
Oh, I love contraversy, dont you? Heehee, I was actually reading that yesterday-of course it may not have been true (the manuscripts, not that they found them), but no one can prove otherwise...
Posted by: Saskia | April 8, 2006 9:56 AM
"You can see how early Christians could say, if Jesus's death was all part of God's plan, then Judas's betrayal was part of God's plan," said Ms. King, the author of several books on Gnostic texts. "So what does that make Judas? Is he the betrayer, or the facilitator of salvation, the guy who makes the crucifixion possible?"
its so much DD-Snape...
Posted by: Sofie | April 8, 2006 3:47 PM
This is a document suppossedly written about 200 yeras after Jesus' death... i don't know if i buy into this new theory... i'll keep on reading.
Posted by: Sol | April 8, 2006 8:42 PM
Hey Melissa. Love the blogs. The entertain me. Even this very little one you posted.
Anyways, I've been a huge fan of the-leaky-cauldron.org for some time but since I finally built the courage to maintain a website of my own, I've been rather lacking in any new leaky updates. I only recently starting listening to Pottercast and I've got to say..it is quite brilliant. After searching through every link of the leakynews.com, I found that you are VERY involved with the site. I see you responding to nearly all the comments and even in the forums and having a life outside of Harry Potter. It's crazy. I don't know how you do it! I probably get 1hr of sleep a day but I still don't get as much work done as you seem to do. I give you major props. Thanks for such an amazing website and pottercast.
Posted by: Sandra | April 8, 2006 11:16 PM
Melissa, I was news googling HP and i stumpled across an article entitled "Harry Potter and the Gospel of Judas"
You can check it out at the link below:
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/04/07/134306.php
Posted by: Breana | April 9, 2006 12:36 AM
I just wanted to point out something that was sort of of eluded to earlier. Go here for an opinion/explanation of the date issue http://cruz-control.blogspot.com/. It should be the 2nd or 3rd post down.
Posted by: Kelli | April 9, 2006 3:47 PM
Oppsy Daisy
i think we may have been a bit wrong...not good....
Posted by: Azrael | April 9, 2006 9:05 PM
I love when things like this pop up. I love Harry Potter and my dad is a Baptist minister. I enjoyed the Davinci Code and Dan Brown in general. Am I a paradox? No. Its called FAITH for a reason everyone. You either believe it or not...
"There are more things in Heaven and Earth than men's hearts dare to
dream."~Shakespeare~
Posted by: Hanna | April 10, 2006 12:33 AM
That's pretty funny... any way I have to ask you, no beg you please video tape Andrew and John doing DDR I think it would just make the day of every one to whom praises you or them. Thank you.
Cat
Posted by: Cat | April 10, 2006 3:56 PM
yeah, that would be very funny. Hey Melissa, did you get the Easter treats I sent you guys?
Posted by: Hanna | April 10, 2006 10:31 PM
We knew that these documents existed. We didn't have any copies and they were "lost" because they were discounted as false by the early church, and most were destroyed. Gnostic texts are discussed in the New Testament by Paul and refuted.
Posted by: Shannon | April 13, 2006 1:38 AM
have you seen this?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1-FpkYSs98Y
lol, it seemed right up your alley.
Posted by: Amy | April 16, 2006 1:31 AM
Shannon is right on the money.
It always baffles me that "revelations" like this are embraced so wholeheartedly and unquestioningly by the public, despite the fact that the canon gospels (which clearly contradict this new document, at least on the Judas issue)are all older and stand up far better to historical scrutiny than the gospel of Judas. Yes, the antiquity of this document has been confirmed, but that says nothing about the historicity of its contents.
Why is it that people seem so willing to dismiss the Bible as fantasy, and yet so quick to blindly jump on board with any of the (far less credible) spins on the life of Jesus that crop up?
Posted by: Chris | April 16, 2006 4:58 AM
The lost gospels don't get to me as much as Horus does. He was documented about...2,000 years before Jesus was even freaking born.
Posted by: Jessie | April 21, 2006 7:53 PM
The facts that seem to escape those who 'defend' the canon Bible are specifically that the version that is 'official' at this point was pared down by a committee headed by Emperor Constantine of Rome and was particularly guided towards encouraging not only Roman citizens to embrace Christianity, but for Christians to embrace Roman society. It isn't so much purified as it is spin doctored to suit the reigning government of the time.
Posted by: Witchchylde | April 23, 2006 7:42 AM
Can we steer clear of the DaVinci Code rhetoric?
Constantine did not create, nor spin-doctor the canon of “official” Gospels. From the second century on, according to all outward assertion and manuscript evidence, the four canon Gospels were already fixed, and there is plenty of evidence tracing the priority of these four Gospels further back through the first century.
By the time of Constantine, not only were the canonical Gospels fixed, but the rest of the canon was pretty much established as well. This is clearly shown by the two major codexes that we have from the fourth century. These are the two earliest close-to-complete Bibles, and they only have four Gospels in them, the four that we know as Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
Posted by: Chris | April 24, 2006 9:42 PM
Actually, Chris, I didn't get this information about Constantine from The DaVinci Code, I learned it in my Western Civilization class last fall.
Posted by: Witchchylde | May 2, 2006 6:58 PM
